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Welcome to the Build With ICF podcast with your hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown. With over 20 years of ICF installation, technical, and sales experience Trevor is considered an industry expert…on the other side of the table is Heather, aka the Girl Boss, and she has earned that title as the award winning owner of an ICF building company as well as a ICF drafting & design company…SLEEVES UP, BOOTS ON, this is the Build With ICF Podcast.
Welcome to the Build With ICF podcast with your hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown. With over 20 years of ICF installation, technical, and sales experience Trevor is considered an industry expert…on the other side of the table is Heather, aka the Girl Boss, and she has earned that title as the award winning owner of an ICF building company as well as a ICF drafting & design company…SLEEVES UP, BOOTS ON, this is the Build With ICF Podcast.
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7 days ago
7 days ago
In this episode Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown introduce the official launch of The World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA), explain membership options (manufacturers, industry pros, DIYers), and walk listeners through signup, app access, and Founders Club perks.
They also outline community features — a monitored code of conduct, a marketplace and job board, events and training, and the Stack Club referral rewards — and invite listeners to join, participate, and help grow the ICF industry.
JOIN NOW https://members.wicfa.com/member-application
Any Questions?? Info@BuildWithICF.com

Friday Apr 03, 2026
Build With ICF Podcast Episode 68 Becoming an ICF Installer
Friday Apr 03, 2026
Friday Apr 03, 2026
Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown discuss the launch of WICFA and practical steps to become an ICF installer—from online learning and hands‑on training to on‑site experience, certifications, and building relationships with manufacturers.
They cover low startup costs, crew-sizing strategies, marketing tips, and industry opportunities, and invite listeners to join the WICFA waitlist and contact BuildWithICF for training and support.
Any Questions shoot us an email at Info@BuildWithICF.com or hit us up on Socials @BuildWithICF
And don't forget to get on the WICFA Waitlist www.wicfa.org

Thursday Mar 26, 2026
Build With ICF Podcast Episode 67 - Dave Phelps on Building High-Performance Homes
Thursday Mar 26, 2026
Thursday Mar 26, 2026
Two experts in ICF, decades of experience, one podcast: hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown sit down with Dave Phelps of ICF Homes of Virginia. They cover Dave’s journey from physics to custom ICF homes, how content and social media grew his business, DIY and reduced-scope options, the massive ‘castle’ project, thermal mass performance and HVAC sizing, industry advocacy, and the launch of WICFA. Practical insights for builders, DIYers, and anyone curious about insulated concrete form construction. Dave also talks about a really cool program he participates in called 1-4-1 Project that supports those in need of shelter around the world by building one home for a family in need for every one home we build here in the US.
Here is the link to learn more The 1-4-1 Project
And you can get hold of Dave with any questions via email Dave@ICFHomesofVA
Or on IG @ICF_Homes or on YouTube ICF Homes Virginia
And as alway you can reach us on Socials @BuildWithICF and email Info@BuildWithICF.com

Monday Mar 23, 2026
Monday Mar 23, 2026
In episode 66 Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown answer the top questions about the new World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA), explaining why industry momentum is building now and what sets this association apart.
They cover the inaugural founders board, membership tiers (manufacturers, industry professionals, and DIY), the GrowthZone member hub with community pages and a job/bid board, sponsorship options, planned meetings, disaster-response advocacy, and concrete ways listeners can help.
Go get on the WAIT LIST!! WICFA.org
Any questions?? Send us an email Info@BuildWithICF.com

Monday Mar 16, 2026
Build With ICF Podcast Episode 65 - Pow-R-Wall and Rub-R-Wall
Monday Mar 16, 2026
Monday Mar 16, 2026
Two experts in ICF and decades of field experience come together on the Build With ICF podcast with hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown. In Episode 65 Troy Mohr and Andy Hobbs introduce Resilient Building Products — the merger of Pow-R-Wall (formerly Hobbs) and Rub-R-Wall — and discuss innovative ICF systems, reduced concrete contour walls, integrated waterproofing, and strategies to speed and simplify foundation construction.
They cover distribution and logistics, applicator training and support, the benefits of panelization, and how these solutions fit rising energy codes and the needs of builders seeking durable, efficient, and resilient foundations. Links and contact info are provided in the show notes for follow-up.
Check them out at Pow-R-Wall.com and Rub-R-Wall.com
Or shoot them an email at tmohr@rubrwall.com and ahobbs@powrwall.com
As always follow us on social @BuildWithICF.com and email us at Info@BuildWithICF.com
with any show questions or idea for new episodes.

Tuesday Mar 10, 2026
Build With ICF Podcast Episode 64 ICF Pool King: Aaron King with All 3 Pools
Tuesday Mar 10, 2026
Tuesday Mar 10, 2026
Join hosts Trevor and Heather Brown as they sit down with Aaron "Pool King" King, an ICF expert who transformed from builder to award-winning ICF pool master. With decades of experience, Aaron shares his journey into ICF pools, lessons learned, and why monopours and proper training matter.
The hands-on pioneer. With a finance degree in real estate from Missouri State University, Aaron has built more than 100 ICF pools across the Midwest and Gulf Coast since first working with ICF in 2013–2014. He is the driving force behind monopour ICF pool construction, with signature projects including the Condor Infinity Edge Pool, Shaw Hollow Infinity-Edge Pool, and Dauphin Island Beach Pool. His work has earned multiple top honors from ICF Builder Magazine and the People’s Choice Award at World of Concrete. Follow his builds on our ICF Guru YouTube channel.
This episode also covers practical how-to advice for DIYers and builders, innovations in pool finishes and materials, and resources like AllThreePools.com and ICF Guru — plus a look at the new World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA) and the future of ICF construction.
Reach out to Aaron on YouTube www.youtube.com/@all3pools
Email him at aaron.king@all3pools.com
And as always hit us up at Info@BuildWithICF.com
or @BuildWithICF on Socials and get on the WICFA Wait List https://wicfa.org/

Friday Feb 27, 2026
Friday Feb 27, 2026
Two ICF experts and podcast hosts, Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown, announce the launch of the World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA). The episode outlines WICFA’s mission to promote, protect, and advance ICF through advocacy, education, industry collaboration, directories, certified installer training, member forums, discounts, and events.
The hosts explain membership tiers, pricing, Founders Club perks, plans for lobbying and PACs, partnerships with manufacturers, continuing education credits, and upcoming events like World of Concrete. They invite listeners to join the waitlist at WICFA.org
Contact us at info@BuildWithICF.com
or @BuildWithICF on socials

Tuesday Feb 24, 2026
Build With ICF Podcast Episode 62 IBS ReCap and Stories from the Road
Tuesday Feb 24, 2026
Tuesday Feb 24, 2026
Hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown recap an action-packed month covering live trainings, trade shows, and on-site experiences from Indiana to the Florida Keys. They announce the formal launch of the World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA), discuss industry advocacy through NAHB, share lessons from diverse job site builds (including Amish communities and a hurricane-rated car museum), and preview upcoming guests and projects.
Episode 62 highlights networking wins, ICF adoption across different markets, and how community involvement and associations can drive industry growth.
Sign up for the WICFA Waiting List at WICFA.org
Reach out to us at Info@BuildWithICF.com and @BuildWithICF on Socials.

Wednesday Jan 28, 2026
Build With ICF Podcast Episode 61 World of Concrete Recap
Wednesday Jan 28, 2026
Wednesday Jan 28, 2026
Two experts in ICF — Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown — recap their World of Concrete experience, industry buzz, and product discoveries from decades of hands-on work in ICF installation, drafting, and design.
The episode highlights new tools, plan books tailored to block manufacturers, manufacturing and accessory innovations, and personal show stories and shout-outs to builders, distributors, and vendors they met.
Listeners’ top questions are addressed, including termite and rodent concerns, adding ICF safe rooms to existing homes, and structural GFRP updates; practical solutions and product suggestions are shared.
They also discuss building industry connections, the idea of an associate ICF association, upcoming events and classes, and how to reach the Build With ICF team for plans, referrals, or questions.
Follow us @BuildWithICF and email us at Info@BuildWithICF.com

Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Build With ICF Podcast Episode 60 - World of Concrete 2026 Preview
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Two ICF experts with decades of experience—Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown—share quick, practical tips for getting the most out of World of Concrete. From using the show app and planning booth visits to making supplier connections, what to expect, and must-see events like the ICF Builder Awards.
Download the app, bring comfortable shoes, and plan your show to touch blocks, meet reps, and discover new products. See you at North Hall!
